The real culture war isn’t new—it began in the 1880s. Are you choosing liberation or obedience?
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In this episode, Charlie and Brian explore a deep-rooted cultural and spiritual transformation that began in the late 19th century, focusing on figures like Aleister Crowley, Gerald Gardner, and Ross Nichols. These esoteric thinkers and spiritual leaders challenged traditional, hierarchical, and ascetic religious models by promoting personal liberation, initiatory experiences, and direct participation in spiritual mysteries. Their work helped shape the modern Pagan, Druid, and magical movements, breaking away from rigid structures of control.
Charlie argues that we are in the midst of the real culture war, which isn’t about religion versus secularism but rather freedom and self-discovery versus obedience and authoritarianism. They discuss how these shifts in philosophy, psychology, and spirituality were foundational in the rise of New Age movements, the counterculture of the 1960s, and ongoing struggles for social justice today.
The conversation also covers the historical impact of the Second Axial Age (1880s–1960s), the influence of Thelema and Wicca, the rise of feminism in esoteric traditions, and the fundamentalist backlash against spiritual freedom. They encourage listeners to reflect on their own spiritual paths and advocate for liberation over dogmatic control.
Charlie and Brian conclude by emphasizing the importance of resisting high-control religious and societal structures while fostering personal and collective empowerment through spiritual exploration, self-realization, and community-driven movements.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction: The Common Thread of Crowley, Nichols, and Gardner
00:57 Meet the Hosts: Charlie and Brian
01:13 Who Were Crowley, Gardner, and Nichols?
02:00 The Paradigm Shift in Spirituality
03:20 The Second Axial Age: A New Era of Thought
05:16 The Rise of Participatory Spirituality
09:48 The Real Culture War: Liberation vs. Control
16:14 The Influence of Crowley and the Aquarian Age
19:39 Modern Implications and the Fight for Freedom
31:25 Conclusion: Embracing Liberation and Community
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